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Court case against the WT in Belgium - NEW For discrimination
by Nick! incourt case against the wt in belgium.
you may recall that sometime ago i posted an information about it.. jacques lejeunes case, ex jw, who had won an appeal against the adverse second level judgment, will be heard for the last time in front of the mons court on october 18th.. this case is emblematic as it is the first time that the violation of human right against the wt will be heard.. jacques is determined to go to the european court of human rights if this last case will end up in favor of the wt.. whoever wants to join me in attending the trial in support of jacques is welcome.. believe that jacques deserves this support.. the case will be heard on october 18th at 2 p.m. and is planned to last 4 hours.
both jacques and the wt have already presented their memorandum which is available online on my website, but in french only.
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JEHOVAHS WITNESSES HIERARCHY CHARGED (AUSTRALIA)
by TJ Curioso inin this site http://www.jwnews.net/ i saw this information.
somebody can confirm that this it's true?
australia: protecting children inquiry hears evidence about ongoing refusal of jehovahs witnesses and the watch tower society to comply with mandatory child protection laws as legislated in the working with children act 2005 for religious organisations .
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TJ Curioso
In this site http://www.jwnews.net/ I saw this information. Somebody can confirm that this it's true?
AUSTRALIA: Protecting Children Inquiry hears evidence about ongoing refusal of Jehovah’s Witnesses and the Watch Tower Society to comply with mandatory child protection laws as legislated in the Working with Children Act 2005 for “religious organisations”JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES HIERARCHY CHARGED
July 26, 2011
IMMEDIATE PRESS RELEASE: 26 JULY 2011
Link to this Press Release: http://wp.me/p1G1hC-4O
Link to this Web Page: http://jwnews.net
Worldwide Church Hierarchy Charged With Child Abuse
AUSTRALIA: The entire worldwide religious and corporate hierarchy of the church of Jehovah’s Witnesses were formally charged today in the State of Victoria, Australia, with the mass committing of criminal offences against children.
Criminal charges were officially filed today in the Magistrates’ Court of Victoria, Australia, against the entire worldwide religious and corporate hierarchy of the church of Jehovah’s Witnesses. The charges allege ongoing breaches of the Victorian Working with Children Act 2005 as it applies to “religious organisations”.
An initial 35 criminal charges, alleging breaches of mandatory child protection laws, were individually filed against the following corporations and bodies as named in the court documents (“Charge-Sheet And Summons” No. 066484):
Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses (7 charges)
Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania (7 charges)
Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of Australia (7 charges)
Christian Congregation of Jehovah’s Witnesses (7 charges)
Faithful and Discreet Slave (7 charges)
All of the accused legally form part of the Committee of Management for the Religion of Jehovah’s Witnesses in the State of Victoria.
Each of the 35 charges carries a fine of up to Au$144,000.
All charges are in relation to allegations of unlawful activities carried out within the Traralgon Kingdom Hall of Jehovah’s Witnesses by the entire Body of Elders within the Traralgon Congregation of Jehovah’s Witnesses.
All current members of the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses are also facing potential arrest and charging in relation to each alleged offence as they
“knew of, or knowingly authorised or permitted, the commission of the offence.”
If convicted they individually face up to two years imprisonment per “offence” and even the possibility of being placed on the state’s Sex Offenders register.
It is expected that over 100 additional sets of criminal charges could be laid as more evidence comes to light and more offences are formally identified.
The total number of corporate and individual charges could exceed several thousand with some estimates tipping that they could easily pass the 10,000 mark being spread across all congregations of Jehovah’s Witnesses operating within the State of Victoria.
The filing of all 35 charges was formally approved by Victoria’s Chief Magistrate after the Department of Justice carried out a thorough review of the evidence and application of the legislation and law as it applies to “religious organisations” including within the religion of Jehovah’s Witnesses.
The first round of charges were then filed today by Mr Steven Unthank.
Mr Unthank had recently given testimony at the Protecting Victoria’s Vulnerable Children Inquiry held last month on 8 June 2011 in relation to the refusal of the entire Committee of Management for the Religion of Jehovah’s Witnesses to comply with mandatory child protection laws, which primarily prevents convicted sex offenders, child rapists, drug dealers, and murders from having access to children across a range of industries and organisations.
All court fees for the filing of the charges were donated by a number of children, through their parents, for and on behalf of all children within the religion of Jehovah’s Witnesses.
Following the filing of the charges, the Registrar of the Magistrates’ Court of Victoria, acting under direct instruction from the Chief Magistrate, formally referred the case to the Office of Public Prosecutions which is the statutory authority responsible for preparing and conducting criminal prosecutions in Victoria.
In relation to the seriousness of the charges and allegations of wide spread child abuse and neglect within the religion of Jehovah’s Witnesses, a formal submission to the Australian Senate is now being prepared for the purpose of requesting an immediate Senate inquiry into the alleged ongoing criminal activities being committed within Australia by the Committee of Management for the Religion of Jehovah’s Witnesses.
Many members of the religion of Jehovah’s Witnesses, and their families, are now demanding the immediate resignation or removal of the entire Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses and the entire Board of Directors of the Watch Tower Society as well as the forming of church-based Judicial Committees in relation to these serious child abuse charges. This has been made even more urgent by the fact that every charge is an indictable criminal offence, with the victim being a child, and every alleged perpetrator being a current church elder holding a position of responsibility within the religion.
In commenting on the filing of the criminal charges in the Magistrates’ Court today, Mr Steven Unthank has released the following personal statement
“The Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses and the Watch Tower Society knew about these child protection laws and refused to comply from the outset. They were notified well before the laws were made compulsory for “religious organisations.”
“They ignored the counsel and the need to comply. They were then warned that they could face criminal charges. They did nothing about it and nothing to protect the children and nothing to protect the name and reputation of the church.
“Even the Department of Justice notified them and offered to assist them in complying with mandatory child safety laws. This included an offer to conduct training and information sessions. The State Government had previously waived all the fees so that the religion could comply without a financial burden to anyone. The Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses and the Watch Tower Society completely ignored the offer of help.
“Again they were informed that they were still facing imminent charges and were given an opportunity to sort the matter out. They refused mediation.
“They were also given the opportunity to have the complaints of serious wrongdoing and allegations of breaches of child protection laws heard within the church format under the religious category of “sins”. They refused to even conduct an initial investigation to establish whether there is substance to the report and whether evidence is available showing that a serious sin actually has been committed.
“So now the complaints will be heard under the Criminal Code as indictable “crimes”. This was approved following an initial investigation by the Department of Justice to establish whether there is substance to the report and whether evidence is available showing that an indictable crime may have actually been committed.
“Why they never contacted the one complaining against them at law to settle the matter quickly while they were on the way to court is serious cause for alarm. To contact the “complainant” before he officially becomes the “informant” is church doctrine and a religious obligation. To sort out a dispute before it gets to court is not negotiable within the church format. It must be done. If absolutely no attempt is made, then the accused loses all rights of objection to having been charged with an offence under criminal law.
“The Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses and the Watch Tower Society outright refused to follow their very own procedures. They now have only have themselves to blame. You reap what you sow.
“These men are no longer free from accusation and neither do they have a fine testimony even from people on the outside of the congregation. They are no longer blameless.
“As of 31 March 2011, 738,563 adults from all walks of life within the Victorian community have formally complied with the Working with Children laws and undergone child safety checks to verify that they are not convicted criminals, so that they can continue their duties within the organisations they work or volunteer in and where children are present.
“The Victorian community will not tolerate any religious organisation that refuses to comply with mandatory child protection laws with claims that their church elders and officers are exempt from child protection laws. They are not and any claim of being “exempt”, regardless of who issued that claim, is an outright lie. The Department of Justice has not issued any exemption to any religious organisation. These child protection laws apply to “religious organisations” by default.
“Children form part of every congregation of Jehovah’s Witnesses. Elders are appointed by the Committee of Management for the Religion of Jehovah’s Witnesses as overseers in each congregation. As overseers they are continually instructed that part of their Internal Ministry involves shepherding the children and being available to assist children, help children, mentor children, and to encourage children to join the local congregation’s Ministry School as a student. This is called working with children.
“The Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses and the Watch Tower Society have refused to comply with legal requirements in relation to the activities of their appointed corporate officers and representatives and elders. For refusing to comply they have been criminally charged under corporate law literally in relation to their activities as corporate officers of a “religious organisation.”
“This has never had anything to do with preaching activities and the preaching work of the members of the religion of Jehovah’s Witnesses. Those activities are protected under freedom of religion. The Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses and the Watch Tower Society have always been made aware of this undisputed fact.
“They ignored the counsel and as a result have been charged with criminal offences. You can’t undo being charged. You can’t hide being charged. You can’t deny being charged. Once charged with committing criminal offences against children always charged. This is child abuse. Negligent child abuse that has resulted in being charged with the committing of indictable criminal offences against children.
“These men are no longer irreprehensible. They refused to protect the children and the church. They abandoned the congregation and the children.
“And now that they’re being held accountable, will they be the loudest to scream violations of human rights and freedom of religion and religious persecution?
“Not likely! Corporations do not have human rights. Only humans have human rights. Freedom of Religion only applies to humans. It does not apply to corporations or unincorporated bodies and associations. And as for any claim of Religious Persecution–being held accountable for the committing of criminal offences against children can hardly be the basis for one’s claim of being persecuted.
“It’s time for these men to be removed from their office of overseer. They themselves have gone on record and said that “anyone in a responsible position who is guilty of child abuse would be removed from his responsibilities without hesitation.”
“It’s time for their own removal. Or will they have themselves declared righteous and claim that they are exempt from their own rules they enforce within the congregation?
“A ten point Special Resolution was presented earlier this year to the Voting Members of the Watch Tower Society for adoption. The resolution appears on page 589 of the 664 page Religious Manifesto entitled “A Submission”.
“This Religious Manifesto, which provides damning evidence of the breadth and scope of criminal activities being committed within the religion of Jehovah’s Witnesses in Australia, is the very same document that was thoroughly reviewed by the Department of Justice before the Chief Magistrate authorised the filing of criminal charges against the entire Committee of Management for the Religion of Jehovah’s Witnesses, namely the entire worldwide religious and corporate hierarchy of the church of Jehovah’s Witnesses.
“The time has come for this resolution to be unanimously adopted by the accused. They have 14 days.”
Others within the religion of Jehovah’s Witnesses have started a call this month demanding to see a copy of the churches “Child Safety Policy” and their “Child Protection Policy” but their requests have so far been refused.
Questions have also being raised as to whether the State Government of Victoria should allow access next month to the state-owned Rod Laver Arena in Melbourne, so that the Watch Tower Society can hold a religious gathering in which over 2,500 children from within the community will be invited to attend.
A directly appointed Australian representative of the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses continues to claim that the allegations of criminal activities are “an absolute beat-up.”
Ironically, a published statement and accompanied video news release, appearing on the official web site for the religion of Jehovah’s Witnesses, states the following in relation to those charged with allegedly committing criminal offences against children
“We have no objections to the laws of the land that come into force on whatever has taken place there. Crime is crime. And we recognize there are penalties for crimes committed.”
Time will tell.
A total of 5 separate court hearings have been scheduled for 13 September 2011 in the Magistrates’ Court of Victoria at Latrobe Valley with the accused to be served by summons to appear.
Link to this Press Release: http://wp.me/p1G1hC-4O
Link to this Web Page: http://jwnews.net
For further Press Releases and Links:
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by TJ Curioso inin this site http://www.jwnews.net/ i saw this information.
somebody can confirm that this it's true?
australia: protecting children inquiry hears evidence about ongoing refusal of jehovahs witnesses and the watch tower society to comply with mandatory child protection laws as legislated in the working with children act 2005 for religious organisations .
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TJ Curioso
In this site http://www.jwnews.net/ I saw this information. Somebody can confirm that this it's true?
AUSTRALIA: Protecting Children Inquiry hears evidence about ongoing refusal of Jehovah’s Witnesses and the Watch Tower Society to comply with mandatory child protection laws as legislated in the Working with Children Act 2005 for “religious organisations”JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES HIERARCHY CHARGED
July 26, 2011
IMMEDIATE PRESS RELEASE: 26 JULY 2011
Link to this Press Release: http://wp.me/p1G1hC-4O
Link to this Web Page: http://jwnews.net
Worldwide Church Hierarchy Charged With Child Abuse
AUSTRALIA: The entire worldwide religious and corporate hierarchy of the church of Jehovah’s Witnesses were formally charged today in the State of Victoria, Australia, with the mass committing of criminal offences against children.
Criminal charges were officially filed today in the Magistrates’ Court of Victoria, Australia, against the entire worldwide religious and corporate hierarchy of the church of Jehovah’s Witnesses. The charges allege ongoing breaches of the Victorian Working with Children Act 2005 as it applies to “religious organisations”.
An initial 35 criminal charges, alleging breaches of mandatory child protection laws, were individually filed against the following corporations and bodies as named in the court documents (“Charge-Sheet And Summons” No. 066484):
Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses (7 charges)
Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania (7 charges)
Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of Australia (7 charges)
Christian Congregation of Jehovah’s Witnesses (7 charges)
Faithful and Discreet Slave (7 charges)
All of the accused legally form part of the Committee of Management for the Religion of Jehovah’s Witnesses in the State of Victoria.
Each of the 35 charges carries a fine of up to Au$144,000.
All charges are in relation to allegations of unlawful activities carried out within the Traralgon Kingdom Hall of Jehovah’s Witnesses by the entire Body of Elders within the Traralgon Congregation of Jehovah’s Witnesses.
All current members of the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses are also facing potential arrest and charging in relation to each alleged offence as they
“knew of, or knowingly authorised or permitted, the commission of the offence.”
If convicted they individually face up to two years imprisonment per “offence” and even the possibility of being placed on the state’s Sex Offenders register.
It is expected that over 100 additional sets of criminal charges could be laid as more evidence comes to light and more offences are formally identified.
The total number of corporate and individual charges could exceed several thousand with some estimates tipping that they could easily pass the 10,000 mark being spread across all congregations of Jehovah’s Witnesses operating within the State of Victoria.
The filing of all 35 charges was formally approved by Victoria’s Chief Magistrate after the Department of Justice carried out a thorough review of the evidence and application of the legislation and law as it applies to “religious organisations” including within the religion of Jehovah’s Witnesses.
The first round of charges were then filed today by Mr Steven Unthank.
Mr Unthank had recently given testimony at the Protecting Victoria’s Vulnerable Children Inquiry held last month on 8 June 2011 in relation to the refusal of the entire Committee of Management for the Religion of Jehovah’s Witnesses to comply with mandatory child protection laws, which primarily prevents convicted sex offenders, child rapists, drug dealers, and murders from having access to children across a range of industries and organisations.
All court fees for the filing of the charges were donated by a number of children, through their parents, for and on behalf of all children within the religion of Jehovah’s Witnesses.
Following the filing of the charges, the Registrar of the Magistrates’ Court of Victoria, acting under direct instruction from the Chief Magistrate, formally referred the case to the Office of Public Prosecutions which is the statutory authority responsible for preparing and conducting criminal prosecutions in Victoria.
In relation to the seriousness of the charges and allegations of wide spread child abuse and neglect within the religion of Jehovah’s Witnesses, a formal submission to the Australian Senate is now being prepared for the purpose of requesting an immediate Senate inquiry into the alleged ongoing criminal activities being committed within Australia by the Committee of Management for the Religion of Jehovah’s Witnesses.
Many members of the religion of Jehovah’s Witnesses, and their families, are now demanding the immediate resignation or removal of the entire Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses and the entire Board of Directors of the Watch Tower Society as well as the forming of church-based Judicial Committees in relation to these serious child abuse charges. This has been made even more urgent by the fact that every charge is an indictable criminal offence, with the victim being a child, and every alleged perpetrator being a current church elder holding a position of responsibility within the religion.
In commenting on the filing of the criminal charges in the Magistrates’ Court today, Mr Steven Unthank has released the following personal statement
“The Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses and the Watch Tower Society knew about these child protection laws and refused to comply from the outset. They were notified well before the laws were made compulsory for “religious organisations.”
“They ignored the counsel and the need to comply. They were then warned that they could face criminal charges. They did nothing about it and nothing to protect the children and nothing to protect the name and reputation of the church.
“Even the Department of Justice notified them and offered to assist them in complying with mandatory child safety laws. This included an offer to conduct training and information sessions. The State Government had previously waived all the fees so that the religion could comply without a financial burden to anyone. The Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses and the Watch Tower Society completely ignored the offer of help.
“Again they were informed that they were still facing imminent charges and were given an opportunity to sort the matter out. They refused mediation.
“They were also given the opportunity to have the complaints of serious wrongdoing and allegations of breaches of child protection laws heard within the church format under the religious category of “sins”. They refused to even conduct an initial investigation to establish whether there is substance to the report and whether evidence is available showing that a serious sin actually has been committed.
“So now the complaints will be heard under the Criminal Code as indictable “crimes”. This was approved following an initial investigation by the Department of Justice to establish whether there is substance to the report and whether evidence is available showing that an indictable crime may have actually been committed.
“Why they never contacted the one complaining against them at law to settle the matter quickly while they were on the way to court is serious cause for alarm. To contact the “complainant” before he officially becomes the “informant” is church doctrine and a religious obligation. To sort out a dispute before it gets to court is not negotiable within the church format. It must be done. If absolutely no attempt is made, then the accused loses all rights of objection to having been charged with an offence under criminal law.
“The Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses and the Watch Tower Society outright refused to follow their very own procedures. They now have only have themselves to blame. You reap what you sow.
“These men are no longer free from accusation and neither do they have a fine testimony even from people on the outside of the congregation. They are no longer blameless.
“As of 31 March 2011, 738,563 adults from all walks of life within the Victorian community have formally complied with the Working with Children laws and undergone child safety checks to verify that they are not convicted criminals, so that they can continue their duties within the organisations they work or volunteer in and where children are present.
“The Victorian community will not tolerate any religious organisation that refuses to comply with mandatory child protection laws with claims that their church elders and officers are exempt from child protection laws. They are not and any claim of being “exempt”, regardless of who issued that claim, is an outright lie. The Department of Justice has not issued any exemption to any religious organisation. These child protection laws apply to “religious organisations” by default.
“Children form part of every congregation of Jehovah’s Witnesses. Elders are appointed by the Committee of Management for the Religion of Jehovah’s Witnesses as overseers in each congregation. As overseers they are continually instructed that part of their Internal Ministry involves shepherding the children and being available to assist children, help children, mentor children, and to encourage children to join the local congregation’s Ministry School as a student. This is called working with children.
“The Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses and the Watch Tower Society have refused to comply with legal requirements in relation to the activities of their appointed corporate officers and representatives and elders. For refusing to comply they have been criminally charged under corporate law literally in relation to their activities as corporate officers of a “religious organisation.”
“This has never had anything to do with preaching activities and the preaching work of the members of the religion of Jehovah’s Witnesses. Those activities are protected under freedom of religion. The Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses and the Watch Tower Society have always been made aware of this undisputed fact.
“They ignored the counsel and as a result have been charged with criminal offences. You can’t undo being charged. You can’t hide being charged. You can’t deny being charged. Once charged with committing criminal offences against children always charged. This is child abuse. Negligent child abuse that has resulted in being charged with the committing of indictable criminal offences against children.
“These men are no longer irreprehensible. They refused to protect the children and the church. They abandoned the congregation and the children.
“And now that they’re being held accountable, will they be the loudest to scream violations of human rights and freedom of religion and religious persecution?
“Not likely! Corporations do not have human rights. Only humans have human rights. Freedom of Religion only applies to humans. It does not apply to corporations or unincorporated bodies and associations. And as for any claim of Religious Persecution–being held accountable for the committing of criminal offences against children can hardly be the basis for one’s claim of being persecuted.
“It’s time for these men to be removed from their office of overseer. They themselves have gone on record and said that “anyone in a responsible position who is guilty of child abuse would be removed from his responsibilities without hesitation.”
“It’s time for their own removal. Or will they have themselves declared righteous and claim that they are exempt from their own rules they enforce within the congregation?
“A ten point Special Resolution was presented earlier this year to the Voting Members of the Watch Tower Society for adoption. The resolution appears on page 589 of the 664 page Religious Manifesto entitled “A Submission”.
“This Religious Manifesto, which provides damning evidence of the breadth and scope of criminal activities being committed within the religion of Jehovah’s Witnesses in Australia, is the very same document that was thoroughly reviewed by the Department of Justice before the Chief Magistrate authorised the filing of criminal charges against the entire Committee of Management for the Religion of Jehovah’s Witnesses, namely the entire worldwide religious and corporate hierarchy of the church of Jehovah’s Witnesses.
“The time has come for this resolution to be unanimously adopted by the accused. They have 14 days.”
Others within the religion of Jehovah’s Witnesses have started a call this month demanding to see a copy of the churches “Child Safety Policy” and their “Child Protection Policy” but their requests have so far been refused.
Questions have also being raised as to whether the State Government of Victoria should allow access next month to the state-owned Rod Laver Arena in Melbourne, so that the Watch Tower Society can hold a religious gathering in which over 2,500 children from within the community will be invited to attend.
A directly appointed Australian representative of the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses continues to claim that the allegations of criminal activities are “an absolute beat-up.”
Ironically, a published statement and accompanied video news release, appearing on the official web site for the religion of Jehovah’s Witnesses, states the following in relation to those charged with allegedly committing criminal offences against children
“We have no objections to the laws of the land that come into force on whatever has taken place there. Crime is crime. And we recognize there are penalties for crimes committed.”
Time will tell.
A total of 5 separate court hearings have been scheduled for 13 September 2011 in the Magistrates’ Court of Victoria at Latrobe Valley with the accused to be served by summons to appear.
Link to this Press Release: http://wp.me/p1G1hC-4O
Link to this Web Page: http://jwnews.net
For further Press Releases and Links:
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Songs that express feelings towards Watchtower
by discreetslave inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjffzqtlwrq&nr=1.
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Hemoglobin and red blood cells
by TJ Curioso inin a debate i'm having in a forum, i am discussing the subject of fractions of blood and the watchtower's position with respect to acceptance of some fractions while refusing others.. .
in that debate i mentioned that hemoglobin accepted by the watchtower as a matter of conscience is in fact most of the red blood cell (think about 97%) and the other 3% is the membrane lining the red cell.. .
am i correct in this view?
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TJ Curioso
De nada. És português ou brasileiro?
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Hemoglobin and red blood cells
by TJ Curioso inin a debate i'm having in a forum, i am discussing the subject of fractions of blood and the watchtower's position with respect to acceptance of some fractions while refusing others.. .
in that debate i mentioned that hemoglobin accepted by the watchtower as a matter of conscience is in fact most of the red blood cell (think about 97%) and the other 3% is the membrane lining the red cell.. .
am i correct in this view?
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TJ Curioso
dgp I send you a PM
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Hemoglobin and red blood cells
by TJ Curioso inin a debate i'm having in a forum, i am discussing the subject of fractions of blood and the watchtower's position with respect to acceptance of some fractions while refusing others.. .
in that debate i mentioned that hemoglobin accepted by the watchtower as a matter of conscience is in fact most of the red blood cell (think about 97%) and the other 3% is the membrane lining the red cell.. .
am i correct in this view?
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TJ Curioso
Pirata the discussion is in portuguese.
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Hemoglobin and red blood cells
by TJ Curioso inin a debate i'm having in a forum, i am discussing the subject of fractions of blood and the watchtower's position with respect to acceptance of some fractions while refusing others.. .
in that debate i mentioned that hemoglobin accepted by the watchtower as a matter of conscience is in fact most of the red blood cell (think about 97%) and the other 3% is the membrane lining the red cell.. .
am i correct in this view?
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TJ Curioso
In a debate I'm having in a forum , I am discussing the subject of fractions of blood and the Watchtower's position with respect to acceptance of some fractions while refusing others .
In that debate I mentioned that hemoglobin accepted by the Watchtower as a matter of conscience is in fact most of the red blood cell ( think about 97 %) and the other 3 % is the membrane lining the red cell .
Am I correct in this view ? It is not true that hemoglobin is the highest percentage of red blood cell ?
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The Watchtower Society Hedge Fund
by TJ Curioso inthe watchtower society hedge fundseveral weeks ago it came to my attention via the e-jehovahs-witnesses discussion board that the watchtower society had devised a new money raising scheme.
the scheme is to beg and borrow money from each individual congregation account, which they deem to be in excess of the congregation's actual expenses.
i half jokingly responded to the topic then that the watchtower has become a hedge fund.
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The Watchtower Society Hedge Fund
e-jehovahs-witnesses discussion board that the Watchtower Society had devised a new money raising scheme. The scheme is to beg and borrow money from each individual congregation account, which they deem to be in excess of the congregation's actual expenses. I half jokingly responded to the topic then that the Watchtower has become a hedge fund. Well, as it turns out, that is pretty much what they have become.
An organization called Hedge Fund Intelligence - Global Review hosts an annual pow-wow in London for all the big banks and hedge fund managers, and listed on the roster from the September, 2010, meeting is none other than the Watch Tower Society. Of course, their merely attending a hedge fund meeting does not of itself prove that the Watchtower has become a hedge fund. But, coupled with their scheme to get more money from the congregations and selling off valuable property in Brooklyn, it certainly appears as if they are trying to a acquire a massive pool of money to play the global markets.
Apparently the Watchtower is no longer content to park their money in a bank or in boring money market accounts or certificates of deposit. Forget 3% interest rates. Yawn. The Bethel money managers are apparently going after the Big Money. They are now rubbing shoulders with the titans of the London/Wall Street global financial system.
valuable Brooklyn real estate portfolio as collateral to borrow millions or even billions. I have no proof of that, but I have never heard of a hedge fund that does not borrow to leverage their positions. It is not at all uncommon for market bets to be leveraged 10 - 1. Meaning, if a market player bets a hundred million they may have borrowed ten times that to a billion. Some positions are leveraged nearly 1 to 100!
The hedge funds operate on the herd mentality. Hedge funds pile into tech stocks. Boom! They blow up a bubble and get rich, while the late comers and holders-on get burned. Hedge funds pile into mortgage backed securities. Boom! they blow up a big bubble, make 20% on their bets, pay off their loans and pull out, leaving the suckers holding worthless notes. They may even turn around and short a market they had previously helped stampede the herd into, thus making money on the collapse phase of a bubble. Hedge funds bet billions on commodities, the latest big thing; thus driving up the cost of all the necessities of life, from oil to precious foodstuffs, basically forcing millions on the lower end of the economy into near starvation.
While it is doubtful the Watchtower is actually registered as an independent hedge fund and they may not even directly place bets. It is more probable that they are putting money into real hedge funds and trying to learn the system. In either case, the Watchtower is knowingly playing a part in a greedy, rapacious system, which it also hypocritically condemns, that is callously driving hundreds of millions of people, even Jehovah's Witnesses in the Third World, into poverty and misery. And as we have seen recently, when the big banks make bad bets, then they have the political clout to con the politicians to make the taxpayers cover their losses. The leadership of the Watchtower Inc is now overtly throwing in their lot with the most notorious pirate gangs of the British imperial, monetary system, evidently hoping to share the plunder. No wonder Jehovah indicts the leaders for stripping the flesh off the bones of his people and grinding their faces into the very dust. (See chapter: Amos and Obadiah)
One note on hedge funds: Thousands of hedge funds are registered to British offshore islands, like the Cayaman Islands, British Virgin Islands and The Isle of Mann. The reason being to set themselves out of reach from national governments. Hedge funds and banks are widely known as money laundering facilities for all kinds of dirty money operations, primarily dope and illegal arms sales. About one trillion dollars anually is laundered by the banks and hedge funds in behalf of Dope incorporated. It may well be that if the Watchtower is putting millions into a big offshore hedge funds they are sharing a common pool with drug kingpins and arms dealers. (EIR on Dope Inc)
Click for larger graph at source Interestingly, the New York TimesMagazine just published an article about the relative average incomes of various religious groups. Jehovah's Witnesses were second to last, just a notch above the poorer Pentecostals. This, due in no small measure to the fact that the Watchtower has strongly discouraged Jehovah's Witnesses from acquiring a higher education.The Society also routinely rebukes and condemns Jehovah's Witnesses for getting involved in get-rich-quick schemes. However, Bethel is not shy about cajoling Jehovah's Witnesses into giving their hard-earned income to the Watchtower Society to finance their risky money-making scheme, all for the kingdom, of course.
Meanwhile, word is the Watchtower is intent on building a sprawling new headquarters complex in New York State. They really are riding the gravy train. They use Jehovah's Witnesses for free labor and use their non-profit, tax exempt status to avoid taxes, all the while playing high stakes poker with the cash they acquire, just like the Wall Street boys. The banksters ought to really envy the Watchtower. After all, the banks have to pay enormous salaries and commissions to their derivatives whiz kids. The Watchtower just sends some volunteers to London to learn how to play the game and they work commission free! They really have fattened their hearts for the day of slaughter.
As I have written about extensively, the Watchtower is going to collapse in a big way, as a judgment from Jehovah. It may well be that Bethel's wise guys may end up on the wrong end of a big bet and bankrupt the Watchtower. After all, numerous hedge funds, pension funds and municipalities that thought they were sophisticated enough to play with derivatives have lost billions. Look what happened to the investment bank, Bear Stearns. Swim with the sharks and you are likely to be eaten.
At the very latest the Watchtower hedge fund is going to go bust when the day of Jehovah erupts in all its ferocity. That is when the letter of James will come into force. "Come, now, you rich men, weep, howling over your miseries that are coming upon you. Your riches have rotted, and your outer garments have become moth-eaten. Your gold and silver are rusted away, and their rust will be as a witness against you and will eat your fleshy parts. Something like fire is what you have stored up in the last days. Look! The wages due the workers who harvested your fields but which are held up by you, keep crying out, and the calls for help on the part of the reapers have entered into the ears of Jehovah of armies. You have lived in luxury upon the earth and have gone in for sensual pleasure. You have fattened your hearts on the day of slaughter. You have condemned, you have murdered the righteous one. Is he not opposing you?"http://e-watchman.com/home/2011/5/18/the-watchtower-society-hedge-fund.html
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In a bad situation - blood
by Joey Jo-Jo inmy jw mom had a bad car accident, she has neck problems and she might need a transfusion, so this is what ray means when illusion meets with reality, anyway i need to voice my opinion on the matter without pushing her away..
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TJ Curioso
Tell your mom, that today, what is called "blood transfusions" are in reality, only "fractions" of blood, not all blood.
So, if we can accept some fractions, there are not bases for not accept all the fractions. For example, we can accept hemoglobin, so why not accept all the red blood cells from wich derivates the hemoglobin?